Question Report,,,, Topic,,Actual Start Time,Actual Duration (minutes),# Question NSF CISE CAREER Workshop,,4/5/2021 9:30,327,132 Question Details,,,, #,Question,Answer(s) (spanning multiple columns),, 2,"Is a CAREER submission designated to a division (say, CCF) or to a program (say, AF)?",The proposal should designate a particular program (such as AF).,Netanel -- to a program; programs organize reviews for the CAREER proposals in their space., 3,"Is IIS OK, or it should be IIS/RI for example?","You should definitely include RI in your example, since you should specify a program, not meely a division.",, 4,Will these sessions be recorded for later viewing?,live answered,Yes., 5,Will we have access to the recoreded sessions later?,Yes,, 6,Will program breakouts also be recorded and made available? (I unfortunately teach at that time and won’t be able to participate.),"No plan to record, since each group will be in its own session. But there are office hours with program officers tomorrow to give you a chance to interact with them.","The recording will just be the main webinar, because it is easier to get permissions from the panelists to share their videos, than from all the participants in the breakouts. (You may be able to get a devices to record; that will be up to the program director who set up the breakout -- whether they allow local recording, saving chat, etc.)", 7,Has the recording started?,Thanks from the absent minded professor...,, 8,"how many person-month for the PI in the budget is expected on average just roughly? hoow many minimum roughly? I know it depends on the division or the project, just asking what is reasonable for CAREER.","NSF limits PIs (who are on a regular academic appointment) to two months per year of salary support across all grants. One month per year of PI salary support is “typical” on CAREER grants, if only as a suggested starting point.",, 9,Will the recordings be sent to us by mail?,Recordings and slides will be made available on the website: https://cisecareerworkshop.web.unc.edu/,, 10,I know that CAREER needs a section on prior NSF support. I am asking whether “NSF I-Corp Sites” program (about $2K to $3K) needs to be mentioned in the CAREER proposal? That specific program is not mentioned in the CAREER Q&A.,The section on Prior NSF Support should list that which is most germane to the proposal in question.,, 11,Which factors does one consider when deciding whether to submit a proposal to CAREER versus to a Core Small program?,live answered,, 12,"On the previous slide, it says ""(core programs) all eligible for CAREER award"". How should we intergret ""eligible""? Does that mean the same proposal can be submitted to both CAREER award and a core program? Thank you.",“Eligible” merans that the program will accept (and fund) CAREER proposals. A given proposal cannot be submitted to two or more programs at once.,, 13,what is the typical acceptance rate of CAREER?,"It varies by area and directorate. I've seen 15 - 24% in CISE, some lower numbers in other directorates.",, 14,How to join NSF as a panel reviewer?,https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2016/10/06/increasing-your-chance-of-serving-on-an-nsf-panel/,, 15,How do you become a NSF panel reviewer?,https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2016/10/06/increasing-your-chance-of-serving-on-an-nsf-panel/,, 16,How can one become a panel reviewer? Can we just email the program group managers?,https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2016/10/06/increasing-your-chance-of-serving-on-an-nsf-panel/,, 17,"Does having an NIH R01 or one of those bigger funding reduce the chance of consideration for CAREER, althuogh a very different project? does it imply a proven scholarship which CAREER does not support? How to prove during submission that CAREER project is a different necessary component of person’s career?",live answered,, 18,"If we were to submit a CAREER to a SCH or SCC, do we still have to identify one of the core areas such as IIS?","No (and IIS is a division; it has programs within it including HCC, RI, and III that you would submit proposals to. Proposals aren't normally submitted to divisions. More info on structure: https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2019/01/07/finding-nsf-programs-and-program-officers-for-your-research/)",, 19,How can we meet with program directors in office hours in this workshop? Do we need to schedule?,"There is a schedule with Zoom links for the open office hours tomorrow. https://cisecareerworkshop.web.unc.edu/agenda/ In previous years, we'd coordinated 1-1 meetings, but the level of coordination to do that when everyone is working from home was deemed high. We'll ask on the survey whether these office hours were effective.",, 20,Sorry I missed where the the email list to subscribe?,https://cisecareerworkshop.web.unc.edu/apply,, 21,"Aside from a panel reviewer, are there other volunteer opportuntites at NSF?","Many NSF program officers are temporary ""rotating"" program officers. I did it as a rotator before becoming a permanent person; see https://www.nsf.gov/careers/rotator/ and for my own reasoning, https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2016/09/09/why-im-rotating-at-nsf/",, 22,At what point is one considered a “proven researcher”? Does having other NSF funding (NSF large) or NIH funding (R01) diminish you chances in any way? Would this also apply to early faculty in their first couple years of their position?,"CAREER proposals are not judged according to whether someone is a “proven reseacher”. That said, your tenure review committee of faculty mentor should set parameters.",, 23,"Not a CAREER-related question, but in case there is time: Are there any plans to expand the (wonderful) CSGrad4US program to prospective grad students who graduated earlier than 2016 and have been in the workforce for a while?",The current CSGrad4US program is a pilot to see how it can work. We will use our experience from this year to see how to move forward in the future.,, 24,"You mentioned that when submitting a career, we can apply directly to Smart and Connected Communities. Is there anything we need to do specifically to do this? If my traditional PO is in CNS(NeTS/CSR) should I ask them?","When submitting, you designate a program (or programs—you can select more than one) from a drop-down list. SCC or SCH would be one of them.",, 25,Does getting CRII reduce the chance of getting CAREER?,"No, nor any other proposal type.",, 26,"Hi Margaret, my question is about candidates from universities that have a pre-tenure promotion called “associate” prof. “without” tenure (e.g. MIT, CMU). Does NSF CAREER have any considerations to help these candidates?","No, per the FAQ: https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2020/nsf20025/nsf20025.jsp#q2",, 27,"“Smart and Connected Health” is what I meant, sorry",,, 28,"If a new faculty submits the career proposal before submitting any NSF proposals, is there any negative impact of that?",live answered,, 29,Does preliminary data is one of the factors of awarding CAREER as there is not much during early academic career?,live answered,, 30,"Are there any suggestions for how to pose an “interdisciplinary” CAREER proposal? In my specific case, I work at the intersection of machine learning and plant biology, and I worry that any proposal in this space that I tailor to a specific program will not be reviewed positively due to the interdisciplinary nature (and difficulties for panels in reviewing interdisciplinary work!).",live answered,, 31,"For new faculty, do we need to publish many papers first to make the branding in the field before submitting to CAREER proposal? I have seen some such cases.",live answered,, 32,"Thank you for the workshop. Would you advice to wait and get experience by becoming a reviewer for an NSF panel and then submit a CAREER, or try immediately the first time?","You learn things about proposal writing and evaluation by being on a panel that can be helpful for propsoal writing in general. But I don't think you need to have done a panel, if you get good feedback on your proposal from folks in the way Margaret strongly encouraged (and I agree with her).",, 33,"Can I include ideas I’m currently working on as part of the CAREER proposal, or do I have to propose ideas that I haven’t started working on?",live answered,, 34,"Are the number of years in academia (e.g., spent several years in a post-doc position vs. only recently out of a PhD program) accounted for when determining if the applicant is “the right person to tackle the challenge”.","Panelists typically are not thinking about length of time, versus does this person have the ability and expertise to do the proposed work?",, 35,How do you recommend to provide evidence for the skill sets?,live answered,"Sorry; I was clicking on the question Phil is answering, and it disappeared and made me click on yours. Please ask again? (I'll delete this one...)", 36,Can you tell us more about the education component of the CAREER Proposal? And is a support letter from the department required?,live answered,, 37,Is a section for reporting previous support required as part of the Research Description in CAREER?,"Yes, if you have prior awards as a PI or co-PI that are ongoing or ended less than five years ago. See https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/policydocs/pappg20_1/pappg_2.jsp#IIC2diii",, 38,"How preliminary can the results be? Do they have to be published, or a description of the ongoing work would suffice?",live answered,, 39,"In addition to the chair support letter, would other support letters from collaborates considered as an advantage!","Letters of support are explicitly forbidden by the PAPPG. https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/policydocs/pappg20_1/pappg_2.jsp#collab If you have specific collaborations that are part of the proposal, it is good to document them (so that panelists believe you have the resources you need.)",, 40,How do you recommend to provide evidence for the skill sets?,live answered,, 41,Would you prioritize a proposal with one central question over one with few smaller ones under a mutual theme?,live answered,, 42,"If I have an accepted new idea paper in any conference, will it add values to getting CAREER award on that same proposal?",live answered,"Yes, in the sense that an aspect of intellectural merit is whether you are prepared to be successful on this proposed research. I think it helps to establish the likelihood that you’ll advance the research in this area.", 43,"I am a bit confused about what should be in education section and what should in the broad impact section? As a concrete example, where should outreach activities be stated?","There can be significant overlap. The special part of the career solicitation is ""integration of research and education"". Are you doing creative work on broader impact that involves integration of research and education? Then maybe the required BI section is just a short reference to what you have included throughout the proposal on ""integration of research and education"". Look at proposals from others to get an idea of what they have done.",, 44,Are letters of collaborations mandatory? Can collaborators come from the same university/department as me?,"Not mandatory, but panelists may wonder if you have the collaborations in place. Collaborators can come from your institution, sure (and in those cases I think panelists are a little less worried about the letters).",, 45,Can we include industry consultation and resources in the budget in the CAREER proposal?,live answered,, 46,"In my first submission, I received a comment from the panel: “Course development and mentoring are part of the PI’s usual job responsibilites.” Should we just include innovative education plans in a CAREER proposal? What is your advice in making the education plan innovative?","If the research plan is innovative, and the education plan is well integrated with the research plan, then the education plan will likely be perceived as innovative as well. Try to emphasize what are the unique features of your education plan that go beyond the usual teaching/mentoring duties. For example, does your education plan reach populations beyond your own students? Will it have an impact beyond the classroom/zoomroom?",, 47,"I have several proposals are under review in different NSF programs, and, it is more likely, when I submit NSF Career proposal, there will be a lot of overlaps with those under review proposals. Does this situation affect both of the proposals, I mean, the under review ones and NSF Career one?",live answered,, 48,Where can we get the collaboration letter template?,https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/policydocs/pappg20_1/pappg_2.jsp#collab,, 49,"It’s recommended to talk to NSF program officers before I submit a CAREER proposal, but I’m not sure what exactly to ask in that conversation. I feel fairly certain about which program I should be submitting the proposal to and that the work I want to propose is within that program’s scope. What else should I ask? I don’t want to waste the PO’s time.",ttps://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2019/01/07/finding-nsf-programs-and-program-officers-for-your-research/,, 50,"How much detail in the research component is enough but not too much? I often feel that, if I am able to lay down all details, then it is no longer research. On the other hand, reviewers may comment that they cannot tell whether the idea is good without more details.",live answered,, 51,"Not a qs, Can you please provide transscript of the Q&A as there are several useful qs and links provided. Thanks!","Yes, the plan is to make the transcript available on the website after: https://cisecareerworkshop.web.unc.edu/",, 52,"Building on the discussion of how much to include in terms of what you've done and what you bring to the table, would you prefer a proposal that continues to build on work I did during PhD/postdoc and carries through many of the same ideas (but risks seeming incremental), or one that proposes more new ideas (but therefore maybe has less justification in terms of the PI qualifications)",live answered,, 53,Would an REU supplement be possible for a CAREER proposal? Or would this require a separate proposal?,https://www.nsf.gov/crssprgm/reu/faculty.jsp -- all proposals by default can have embedded REU supplement requests (though some programs choose not to fund REUs very early in the course of a project and may decide not to fund that part of the proposal).,, 54,"A question about finishing annual report of NSF (awarded) grants in time. To avoid decision/processing delay on other submitted NSF proposals, is it good that we submit the NSF annual report before the due date, or do we need to submit the report *and* get approval by the NSF program director before the due date?","Yes, you want the reports to be approved before the overdue date. Some thoughts on that: https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2019/04/15/getting-and-giving-more-out-of-nsf-reporting/",, 55,"For a first year faculty member who does not have sufficient actionable items in their education plans due to COVID, will there be any consideration for that?",live answered,, 56,Can broader impacts involve beyond teaching STEM and focus on teaching healthcare professionals?,live answered,, 57,"how many grad students are typical of CAREER budget? Is having a postdoc support reasonable for CAREER, or it is preferred to be spent on grad/undergrad students as far as review/panel is concerned?",live answered,, 58,"The science between proposals needs to be different. Can broadening participation in computing activities between proposals have overlap? For example, same activity but double the number of participants (if both proposals are accepted).",live answered,, 59,"Can the fact of completing PhD in 2005 impact negatively the proposal assessment? It’s the case when someone comes back to an active academic life (and holds an Assistant Professor position), and may be seen as a more senior Assistant Professor than an average applicant. Or the year of PhD completion does not matter (if all eligibility requirements are met)?","Nope, doesn't matter as long as you're still eligible (and little you can do about how panelists would perceive it, whether positive or negative -- sometimes panelists appreciate the experience).",, 60,What technical bacground should we assume about the panel (e.g. general CS background)?,live answered,, 61,"Are there statistics about PI’s years in tenure-track versus success rate? Reason I ask is because in my area (data mining), many recent winners were in their 4th/5th/pre-tenure year.","Not publicly available, and as Margaret said we're trying to encourage more early-career submissions.",, 62,what is the difference between CRII and CAREER? Should we first submit to CRII before CAREER if we don’t have prior NSF funding,live answered,, 63,Does it matter if it is MS or phD student?,You should staff the project in the way that makes the best sense given your institutional context and the projhect needs.,, 64,Is that okay to share a draft with PO before submission and get feedback?,"Program officers probably won't read full drafts, or give lots of detailed feedback on proposal content -- that doesn't scale and isn't fair to folks who don't ask. POs will do work to assess fit and some will give thoughts about the specific project if they come to mind, but the experts are the folks in the field that you know and you should get most feedback from them. https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2019/01/07/finding-nsf-programs-and-program-officers-for-your-research/",, 65,"Is tuition for graduate students an acceptable expense, or is that expected to be covered by the University? (if covering stipend and tuition, a postdoc can actually be more cost effective…)","Yes, many universities don't waive tuition and charge it to proposals; check with your university's sponsored projects office for local knowledge and expectations.",, 66,If the PI is eligible for CRII would you recommend to apply for CRII or CAREER in the first year?,live answered,, 67,"Thanks for the informative Q&A. On the note of panelist’s background, if we submit a SaTC proposal, can we expect the panel to consist of panelists who all typically submit to SaTC? Or, should our proposal aim to broader than that?","Looking like this won't get answered live probably because of time constraints. High level: expect expertise in the topic, though with panelist diversity (for example, an adversarial ML propsoal to SaTC might have both submitters to SaTC and core ML expertise if that feels like it's the right thing to do to cover the set of proposals in the panel. For more SaTC-specific answers, check with SaTC in the afternoon session, or the PO office hours of the SaTC program officer who handles proposals most like the one you're thinking about. (See https://blogs.cornell.edu/danco/2019/01/07/finding-nsf-programs-and-program-officers-for-your-research/ for tools for finding those program officers)",, 68,Is collaboration for collecting/obtaining new physiological data as part of an interdisciplinary proposal OK where the proposer if from CS/engineering with no experimental lab? or those data should have already been collected and provided to the proposer before the start of CAREER?,"the collaboration is OK, however, it cannot be a major part of the proposal, and your collaborator can be a sub-contractor only",, 69,Can I add a paragraph in the proposal to explain how the proposed project is different with my advisor’s on-going work if there exists some overlaps but in nature different? Will that be helpful?,live answered,, 70,should I add report of a prior CRII in CAREER proposal research description?,"Yes, results of prior support are required by the PAPPG. The formal requirement is pretty small; if the CRII generated useful stuff that helped shape your research or that you'll use in your research, good to talk about that too -- but again, the proposal is more about the future than the past.",, 71,Are panelists prior career winners?,"Often, not always. But generally as noted in other answers, senior folks who have experience and breadth.",, 72,"If I already have a Small grant in CISE (e.g., III), extension with significant breakthroughs within the same program (e.g., III) be better, or leveraging that into a bit different program (e.g., RI) is better?",Where are your real contributions? Submit to the program where panelists are most likely to value and be able to evaluate the contributions.,, 73,Is the constraint of 3 submissions for CAREER valid in the same directorade or across NSF? (Can I submit 3 tymes at CISE and 3 tymes to ENG?),3 total. CAREER is NSF-wide.,, 74,Is there any suggested split for the technical contents and how much space we should allocate for broader impact + BPC + outreach activities?,"Hard to give a general answer because it partly depends on how much of the work is the technical and how much is the education/outreach/BI/BPC. Empirically I'd say CAREER proposals tend to have 2-3 pages toward the latter, with exceptions in both directions. I've occasionally seen proposals that very tightly integrate the non-technical activities with the technical ones, as deployments/evaluations, when appropriate., and in those cases the BI section might look shorter but the technical activities themselves are argued to have impact.",, 75,Is there any downside to targeting more than one program when submitting the CAREER proposal?,live answered,, 76,Is it Okay to send Emails (1-pager) to multiple POs in a single Email?,"Yes, and preferred to have all the POs on the same email rather than N emails that are separate; that helps coordination and lack of duplication).",, 77,Thank you for your comments.,,, 78,"Do you have specific suggestions for PIs that will make their second/third submisssions to CAREER program (i.e., already declined once/twice) ?",try to get on a panel and understand the review process,, 79,Can you submit CAREER to both CISE and ENG?,live answered,"Yes, you can route to both. Almadena cautions that sometimes the audiences from different directorates are looking for different things.", 80,how do we send proposal to multiple/mixed pograms?,There is a box where you can designate a secondary program on the proposal cover page.,, 81,It seems that there is a limit on the number of NSF proposals (regardless the size) we can be the PIs (maximum two within 12 months). Does this include CAREER?,Proposal limits are solicitation-specific; CAREER is independent of other solicitations.,, 82,Is K-12 educational plan mandatory? Can I only include gradaute and undergraduate education plan?,Yes -- choose the broader impacts that are appropraite for your project and your passion.,, 83,Is collaboration for collecting/obtaining new physiological data as part of an interdisciplinary proposal OK where the proposer if from CS/engineering with no experimental lab? or those data should have already been collected and provided to the proposer before the start of CAREER?,"If the data serves as part of the validation plan that comes later in the project, then this strategy may make sense (and should include a letter of collaboration from the researcher who will make the data available). If the project uses, as a starting point, analysis/discovery dependent on said data set, then provisions to obtain the data beforehand would make more sense.",, 84,Is there sound for the current awardee video?,The sound works from my end…,"Yes, you should hear sound.", 85,Thank you!,,,This is the presentation on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og0CY8aFRRU&list=PL1PFE7gR67YksKdqELd4QY1u8Y04e-dvK 86,Am I the only one not able to see the slides?,Check whether your main zoom window is hiding the second zoom window…,, 87,Are the recorded talks going to be made available? Have to drop out soon because I am teaching.,Will all be posted on https://cisecareerworkshop.web.unc.edu/a,, 88,Is the current talk also available on youtube?,"This one is live, and being recorded to be available later.",, 89,"In PI talk 2 I am hearing a repeating theme that significant inside knowledge is needed to ""decode"" various interactions or to understand advice. Program officers do not ever intend to confuse in their interactions with you. Never hesitate to ask for clarifications if you are not confident in interpreting your feedback.","In PI talk 2 I am hearing a repeating theme that significant inside knowledge is needed to ""decode"" various interactions or to understand advice. Program officers do not ever intend to confuse in their interactions with you. Never hesitate to ask for clarifications if you are not confident in interpreting your feedback.","Good comment; I'll ask Cara to clarify in the Q&A session after, when we will have all four speakers on a panel.", 90,I have tried almost everything suggested here to get into a review panel but have not been successful yet. What can I do to increase my chances?,"Good question: I'll add to the evaluation survey (sent tomorrow after the ""open office hours"") a question about this so that I can collect names of those who really want to be on a panel and pass them to NSF. My advice is to volunteer a week after a deadline for a program you are interested in, but did not submit for. That's when the program directors begin to look at the topics and think about what coverage they want on a panel. They generally won't invite junior faculty to CAREER panels, so look at the core.",, 91,Is there a length limit on CAREER proposals?,"Same as regular proposals: 15 pages of project description, 1 page summary, etc. Read the solicitation for these details.",, 92,What are some example ways of building new expertise to prepare for proposal submission in a new field?,live answered,, 93,It looks like serving on an NSF panel is a ‘de facto’ prerequisite to obtaining a CAREER award. Being selected for a panel depends on factors outside of the control of applicants (or even program officers). What steps are being taken to even the playing field and give everyone equal opportunity to gain the ‘insider’ knowledge that appears to be crucial in writing a successful proposal?,live answered,, 94,Cannot see the video,Thanks for the feedback; I think I've resolved that.,, 95,"Several of the speakers have suggested having a 1-2 page writeup to circulate and get feedback before you write and submit your proposal. For the CAREER, should this 1-2 page writeup encompass education too, or just research?","Yes, although perhaps 80% research, 20% education for the 2 pager for feedback.",, 96,Interdisciplinary proposals: How do you reconcile and interpret the reviews from different domain experts. Standards are often different and domain specific.,"Look at the panel summary first, which is the integration of possibly diverse panel opinion. And use the reviews to learn more about how to present your ideas. Panelists don't always get it -- they may lack context or be distracted by parts you think are minor. By serving on a panel yourself, you'll see that they are busy people who value the scientific process enough to spend valuable time evaluating proposals for NSF.",, 97,Several of your proposals had broad interdisciplinary aspects. How did you navigate primarily writing to your audience of panel reviewers and making sure you emphasize the “right things”? What did that entail or not entail?,live answered,, 98,"Regarding collaboration letters from corporations, what kind of resources/support from them are appropriate? Such as equipment, or patent filing support? Shall I allocate budget to these collaborators?","If you need it to do good science, definitely include it.",, 99,"As a PD I would like to take exception with the view that interacting with NSF should be understodd to be finding some ""inside track"". ","As a PD I would like to take exception with the view that interacting with NSF should be understodd to be finding some ""inside track"". ","Agreed, it’s a problematic understanding that I’ve run into in mentoring, deeply undermines confidence. In my experience PDs help know whether the proposal matches the call/division, definitely not some secret help in writing the proposal.", 100,"Thank you for the presentations. To my understanding, your first CAREER proposal submission was around the 2nd year of your tenured-track position?",That is true for me,"Yes, I planned it for late fall/summers 2, 3, and 4. Thankfully I didn’t need to do summer 4.", 101,"how can we send proposal to multiple divisions, and how would that help the acceptance?","In fastlane you choose where to send the proposal, you can choose two divisions there. If it isn’t working for you (I recall the interface being a little confusing) reach out to fastlane tech support or yoru OSP?",, 102,How many collaboration letters are usually needed for a successful career proposal?,live answered,, 103,"in Tam’s presentation, he mentioned that PD will advice on do and do not, is it a typical response from PD?","Not in my experience, PDs are not giving advice on what to write, but are able to talk about fit with the area and possible panel reactions.",, 104,I am wondering if it is possible for the panelists to share what the key considerations are in determining if you have established the right credential (pandemic started right after I started having students),"publications, workshop papers, pilot data, access to needed field sites/equipment.",, 105,"Q regarding educational part: I’ve seen many propose new courses in their area. What if you have started that already? Are certain updates/improvements/additions to recently created new courses less attractive? I imagine there are many ways to integrate say (1) extending reach of materials eg. through mooc, or (2) using the existing course to integrate methods/models from the grant, perhaps evaluate them?","Faculty are expected to update, improve, and add to courses, and even propose new courses. For the educational part, creatively think about integrating research and education, and then propose something that you would like to do, and say how you will evaluate your intervention.",, 106,Are reviewers and panelists the same?,Yes,, 107,What would be an example of a good evaluation metric for an education plan?,Your colleages in education can give you good ideas for how to evaluate educational aspects. It will depend on what you plan to do.,, 108,"If the problem/topic you want to tackle just got an award this year, should you find a different problem?",live answered,, 109,"For Cara: did you need data collected in other experimental labs (your collaborators for example) for your proposal? does it make sense to have the data provided by the collaborator beforer CAREER project started? or to be budgeted to be done over the course of CAREER? or something at the end for validation, etc.?","It did help my case to have some data that I collected with my clinical collaborator, but the N=1 was sufficient to show feasibility (when combined with her letter).",, 110,"How do you make concrete, detailed plans for research projects that are planned for 3 or 4 or 5 years from now?","For me it was relatively straightforward as I am doing a panel study, following the groups over time.",, 111,Would successful non-career proposals diminsh the chances of a CAREER proposal that builds on those previous proposals?,"There can be consideration of whether the PI has enough time to manage their load, but the CAREER is seen as different, so there is less effect there -- if you were submitting another Core, that would have diminished chances...",, 112,what happens if two proposals submitted by two different PIs are conincidentally somewhat similar?,"It happens. Usually one is written better than another. In a non-CAREER panel, I've even seen projects merged, but that would not happen for career.",, 113,'@Cara: how much of your project description was about the work of your collaborator? or the collaboration aspect of your project? I mean the bio/med part of your proposal?,live answered,, 114,"How many research thrusts and research tasks are recommendaded for a career proposal? If we go big, there will be a queestion of scope. If we narrow down the scope, the proposal may look like very limited. What is the right balance?","Good question. Since the answer can depend on area, take a look at successful proposals or ask in the area breakouts..",, 115,Cara mentioned she had a collaborator for the education plan. What kind of collaboration can be imagined or appropriate or helpful for education part?,In my case this was for an outreach effort - it was from a particular school program that I was going to host summer researchers from. I like Tam's idea about getting support from the school of ed.,, 116,"Based on your proposal experience, anything you would have done differentlly?",live answered,, 117,"Apologies if this question has been addressed, but I was wondering what’s the best timing for submitting a CAREER proposal? It seems most awardees were in their 3-4 years when their proposals were granted.","2, 3, and 4 on this panel. I've seen others that have been later.",, 118,"Based on what you just said, does it make sense to think about your CAREER proposal as what you would like one of your PhD students' theses to be in a perfect world?","That may be a fruitful way to think of scoping, but it should be your research, too.",, 119,"For proposals on methodology that will be applied to other fields (like Machine Learning / AI applied to healthcare), what is appropriate for the collaborator letters? Should we specify a certain time commitment on the part of the expert(s) on the application side? Should the letters certify the applicant’s competence in creating impact in the field of the target application?","Check the new NSF language on letters. They are pre-specified now, but many senior mentors haven’t gotten the memo on that yet.",, 120,"Should the research thrusts be parallel or build on top of each other? It sounds like you want them to be sequential (i.e. growing the idea), but doesn’t it make the plan more and more uncertain?",I think both work if you write it in a certain way. Sequential thrusts are risky if your progress for 2 and 3 depends entirely on the first thrust being successful,"I think sequential is a great idea, showing the need for 5 years funding. Need to discuss what you’d do if step 1 doesn’t work out exactly as intended.", 121,"what percentage of the resssearch description document you recommend to go for research objectives, future direction of the lab as a whole, education plan, and broader impacts?",Depends on area.,, 122,"from your panel review experience, what are the obvious reasons that a career proposal will be rejected?",live answered,Careless or clearly generic education plan!, 123,"so tomorrow's office hour is not one-on-one, right?","The PD can decide. Some may choose to have 1-1, but I expect most will be open hours.",, 124,"Apologies if this has been asked before, but will the area breakout sessions be recorded as well?","No, since we didn't want to get video releases from all participants.",, 125,"I see, thank you!",,, 126,"Not a question, but a warm thank you for taking the time to share your experience.",,, 127,Thank you so much for this amazong panel! This is immensely helpful.,,, 128,Is the following breakout session tomorrow?,,, 129,"CCF-CIF Phil Regalia, Scott Acton, Armand Makowski 3:00 – 4:30 (Tues., April 6) Zoom Link",,, 130,Which breakoutroom is the best fit for ML and optimization?,,, 131,"Is the following breakout session tomorrow, instead of today?CCF-CIF Phil Regalia, Scott Acton, Armand Makowski 3:00 – 4:30 (Tues., April 6) Zoom Link",Looks like it. Nicholas set up the breakout sessions.,, 132,which breakout room(s) are more relevant to computational neuroscience?,,,